• squaresinger@lemmy.world
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    11 days ago

    Can I bring to mind Vanilla Ice vs Queen?

    7 notes (2 different ones) were enough for copyright infringement.

    The bar for copyright infringement my humans is incredibly low. All you need to infringe on copyright is that your work is “derived” from a copyrighted source work. If you take an original song and change it so that in the end every single note is different, it’s technically still a derived work and still copyright infringement (though it becomes hard to prove that at that point).

    If you use the same rule for AI, everything an AI ever outputs is derived works. If you removed all original works from the AI training sets, the AI would do nothing at all.

    But for some reason even if the AI outputs whole chapters of books word for word (which most good LLMs can), it’s for some reason not a copyright infringement.

    The only reason that’s the case is that the involved judges have no technical understanding and let themselves be bamboozled by fancy new tech. Or because of money exchanged between AI corporations and judges.

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      11 days ago

      Okay hang on. Yes, Ice Ice Baby and Under Pressure don’t have a lot of notes in common, in terms of absolute note count, but when the songs come on, the layperson doesn’t know which is which. Any normal person would listen to 10 seconds of Ice Ice Baby and go “oh yeah, that’s Under Pressure by Queen”.

      So yeah, if there’s a prompt that people can use to trick an AI into spitting out a chapter verbatim that’s interesting, but I would say minor infringment. No one is going to read a Ton Clancy novel by systematically tricking the AI to spit out each entire chapter one after the other, and it’s presented to essentially an audience of one, the promoter.

      But if I was to take that chapter, the one it spit out verbatim, and put it as a chapter of my book that I published, then yeah, definitely I could be sued for copyright, even if I didn’t do it willingly. Because people would read it and go “oh totally, that’s Pelican Brief”