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I just backed up all my repos and plan on fully migrating to selfhosted Forgejo. GitHub is rapidly going downhill. Recently they had a bug that was silently corrupting people’s main branches, and they’re getting more trigger happy on the ban hammer.
One of my friends just had their entire 14 year account history wiped without any warning for supposedly misusing GitHub Actions (most likely an AI false positive), and they’re just getting all their tickets immediately closed.
Microslop and the mierda touch.
I’ll share more details about where the Ghostty project will be moving to in the coming months. We have a plan but I’m also very much still in discussions with multiple providers (both commercial and FOSS).
- GitLab -> too enterprisey, danger of enshittification, if not already there
- SourceHut -> too different
- BitBucket -> lol
- Codeberg -> GitHub without the bullshit
Codeberg / Forgejo and Tangled are my favorite options. Tangled because while it is VC backed, the open source and federated model are well thought out. If you haven’t read the source code I highly recommend it, it’s genius.
Bitbucket/Stash is so bad, man. My org uses it, probably bc they got a good deal with it as part of Atlassian suite and it just makes everything less convenient than it has to be, from keys to collaborator permissions.
I hope it’s Codeberg. I think it’s a fork of gitea. And gitea can be migrated to Forgejo, which is working on federation. So I can have my server, pull code to it, work on it and for a PR to your server. No more needing accounts everywhere. And the federation well be ActivityPub powered!
Codeberg is Forgejo, in fact they are the maintainers of Forgejo
YAY! lol excellent! I want to say I knew that at one point, but that just means I get to be excited again!
Thank you! :)
If we’re not considering self-hosting:
- GitLab - asks for phone number/cc to create an account, enterprise-level UI (in a bad way)
- SourceHut - free (during public alpha that might end one day), ran by a controversial figure
- BitBucket - “Code and CI/CD, powered by AI”
- Codeberg - limited to FOSS projects, fork of Gitea, CI is compatible with GH actions
I moved all my active and new projects to Codeberg the moment GitHub started pushing their Copilot crap everywhere. I just knew nothing good would come from it.
Isn’t gitlab made by Linus? Shouldn’t it be safe?
Git was started by Linus but he doesn’t run GitHub
I don’t think I’ve ever heard of Linus working for / with GitLab
Good, I’m moving to Codeberg too. Can’t wait to delete my GitHub account permanently.
Im not in the scene but I do hate microslop, can you transfer your history and such that it is seamless?
Yes, all the history is in your local copy too so technically you can just import it. But Codeberg actually offers a migration feature.
I believe Codeberg also has import mechanisms for all the bits alongside the git repo as well. Issues, releases and all that kind of stuff.
Another Microslop victim
Since Microsoft acquired GitHub and CoPilot, GitHub has been losing ground. Systems that try to force AI integration on their users only cause User reaction. That’s why many users are switching to systems like Codeberg.
lol. you’re leaving for the outages?
i left the day microslop bought it. i didn’t delete my repos… but I switched to using gitlab and now codeberg
I’m actually surprised to hear about the outages. i thought they were reliable…
This chart shows the problem fairly well. (Even if the scale is set to make a point)
Source: https://damrnelson.github.io/github-historical-uptime/
Forced to use GitHub Professional and lost count how often GitHub is just standing in my way with things not responding often times without any error message.
That fucking unicorn error page haunts my dreams.
interesting. my bet is because when microslop bought them they switched the infrastructure to azure immediately, and it was probably on something better before
Yeah work is thinking of switching.
Where to?
Holy shit LOL
GitHub didn’t work at all most of the day yesterday
They were for a long while, before they got borged.
Well, that’s quite ironic, because their fiscal sponsor and biggest donor (in both directions) is “Hack Club”, which insists you use GitHub and Figma everywhere and lies to you about deleting your data (source: me, you will have to take my word for it).
Damn, I also want to move away (to codeberg), but it seems that they don’t have cross-repository code search (at least I failed to find one), which is one of my most used GitHub features. Like “lang:nix some-service-name” to see how people configure a specific service. Is there any way to achieve a similar thing on codeberg?
You don’t need to host your code on github to search the projects hosted there. You just need an account.
I mean yeah, but then people who search in a similar way would not be able to find my configs for reference, and that seems unfair.
Simple solution is to have another remote on github and push there so it’s searchable to others but handle PRs, issues and releases on codeberg. People are not leaving github because there’s some issue with hosting code there. The issue are with the development process.
Has anyone compiled a list of where projects are moving to? I know many linux desktop applications are self hosting on gitlab, but i’ve also seen gitea and codeberg. If anyone has opinions about a preference, do comment. I have been enjoying self hosting gitea for my simple personal projects and for deploying simple web apps, all on $5 vps.
I would expect Gitlab and Codeberg to be the most likely destinations depending on how FOSSy a project is.
I heard someone mention “Tangled” earlier today too which might be new? Unsure. Seems to be an attempt at a federated version control platform.Forgejo at least has plans for federation so that’d be my pick.
It would be cool if there was a sort of linktr.ee for git hosting, so I could could search for a repo and it would tell me what platform its on, if there are any mirrors, etc.
ah webrings.
it’s all come full circle now…
They have the kind of hate one can only have for something they used to love.
I’ll share more details about where the Ghostty project will be moving to in the coming months. We have a plan but I’m also very much still in discussions with multiple providers (both commercial and FOSS).
For the people, like me, who were wondering where they were going next.
