I had an American ask me if he could get a military discount.
In Canada.
Idea for any leftist bakeries out there: charge military members even more, veterans even more still. Refuse to make them cake! Make a big deal about it. Enjoy your free national media attention. Send me a little cut.
A little cut, as in a slice of cake?
I love people getting upset when someone says fuck the troops 🥰
make sure you mean metaphorically
Fuck military discounts.
Y’know, I understand where you’re coming from, but my dad did his time in the military, including a stint in Vietnam. He’s 81 now, and I don’t see the harm in giving him a little bit off of a bill for his service. He’s not obnoxious about it, but will sometimes ask, and take it if it’s available. If not, no big deal.
Tell me why your father should be rewarded for when they performed the most horrible actions on other humans that anyone can think of?
If anything, they should pay more, and the money should go to all the families they have destroyed.
This has more to do with propaganda. Where are the discounts for all other contributors to our functional society? Do the garbage people or the electrical worker or sewer worker get discounts?
Its all part of a much larger scale propaganda across our countries history.
You get pissed at senior discounts too?
😂
A lot of seniors are just assholes but not part of a murder industry. Lots of military worship straight up feeds into fascism and nationalism. Fuck that.
A ton of them later become cops too.
So you guarded a pointless fucking parking lot at a base in New Mexico, whoopdeedoo, you’re a vet for life and everyone will bend over for you. But the teachers at our nearby school just keep getting fucked over? All the government workers who ensure our basic infrastructure works don’t matter?
It’s all tilted for a reason. Fuck that reason.
I really don’t get why a senior ex-military has better benefits than a normal senior. One is a benefit everyone applies and another is a benefit that a specific subset applies, and it’s not like they do things that are more important than those that work everyday in the country to keep it running.
A kid spends 5 years in military, lifetime discounts. A teacher spends 5 years teaching, lifetime debt. I really don’t get the point.
I was highlighting the fallacy in your argument, but that was clearly a waste of time.
You obviously don’t know the history of veterans in the U.S. or what brought this type of culture to the U.S.
You probably see the military as an extension of a government you hate (understandable) and think of its members as fully endorsing said government (not correct at all).
That you get butthurt over a discount says a lot about you though.
If it’s due to history of mistreatment and lack of care, then by that logic we should give all minorities a discount as well.
But here’s the thing. Today’s soldier ain’t even CLOSE to dealing with what Vietnam vets or older vets dealt with.
Today’s wannabe Punisher is just a likely wife beater loser who had no direction in life, served a few years, became even more bro, and then went to a policing agency afterwards where he could flex his control fetish over the general populace. That motherfucker that needlessly makes every interaction more intense than necessary needs a blanket of worship for simply having signed up to serve in a military that basically takes anyone? How special.
Our garbage collectors do more difficult and thankless work today than most military. Tending to the Officers golf courses doesn’t warrant shit.
I’m not the same person of the original comment. For you to personally insult me while not bothering to read the name of the user says a lot about you too though.
I hope you have a great day.
Edit: Also, nowhere in my comment did I mention that I hated the US government or the military because it’s completely besides the point, I said that I didn’t understand why a subset of people that contribute as much as others are supposed to get get special privileges. I’m not even from the US, it’s not a thing where I’m from. You sure assumed a lot about me.
You think that’s an insult?
I’m commenting on a behavior, not a person.
Doesn’t matter if are not OP, your sentiment is clearly the same and my comment still stands.
Your comment, however, screams that you are faux offended, so you can feel like you are on the high road.
Edit: No place I know l let’s you have a vet AND a senior discount. It’s one or the other
I see student discounts a lot. What has a student done that an electrician hasn’t, so that the student deserves a discount but not the electrician?
The right answer: Who gives a shit?
It’s a STUPID FUCKING argument that just highlights a really fucking petty person.
Now if a person acts entitled to a discount, then that is an entirely different story.
I thought it was a joke, but people really are butthurt about vets.
History just loves to repeat itself.
He should ask just like all Veterans. No big deal if they do not offer discount but nice when they do. It is just a small gesture of support.
People think Military/Service members are bootlickers on Reddit and here I guess. Reality is people join for various reasons a big reason is to support family. The government owns you during that time. You miss celebrations with family like; birthdays, holidays, marriages, and funerals. I know someone will say “well they volunteered.” That is right they did and you didn’t have to volunteer.
This meme is pretty bad to be real. People out here risking/giving their life for you. Man humanity is sliding into the abyss everyday.
My problem with the whole thing is well expressed by Bojack Horseman.
An IT technician who spends their entire career in air-conditioned offices in their home country but happens to be employed by the army is worthy of adoration, special treatment and prioritisation, but obviously a nurse saving lives on a daily basis and facing routine abuse from violent drunks and psychotic nutcases can fuck right off because they work at a privately-owned hospital.
Drawing a circle around the armed forces saying “these people are deserving of unquestionable praise and arbitrary benefits” is the same as saying “no-one else is” and it’s insulting to the intelligence of everyone involved.
At a certain point people just make excuses. First responders receive more discounts than Veterans. Because they are on the front lines everyday. I support that idea.
You are missing a lot of the sacrifices that Veterans make with a generalization. Required to move every 2-4 years. Deploy to various countries for unknown amount of time with less than 24hrs sometimes. Not being able to communicate with loved ones on a regular basis. Not coming back home with all your body parts or your battle buddy. But hey maybe there is a IT person sitting in a AC room in US. So screw all Veterans makes sense I guess?
My Dad died five years ago, and my mom will still spend 15 minutes haggling over his 10% military discount at Lowe’s over $20 worth of plants. She doesn’t do it anywhere else, just Lowe’s.
JFC, Mom, here’s two bucks, let’s move on.
you should warn her that could be considered a stolen valor crime.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Valor_Act_of_2013
if someone wanted to report her she could face jail time and tarnishing your fathers military legacy.
“you will address me by my deceased husband’s rank”
As a military veteran, this makes me a little sad… but the whole military discount thing has always made me feel weird. I mean, I’m no hero. I spent 20 years sitting at a desk, fixing computers. Why should I deserve a discount over any other office worker?
I currently live in an area far away from any military bases, so I’ve mostly stopped asking about military/veteran discounts. Most people here aren’t used to military being around this area anyway so there’s rarely a discount to offer. And I don’t really care if I get a discount or not; it doesn’t hurt me to pay full price.
But I’ve definitely worked with service members who would boycott businesses near our bases if they refused to provide a military discount. Some people get really entitled about their status. Those were the worst people I had to deal with in the service.
But I’ve definitely worked with service members who would boycott businesses near our bases if they refused to provide a military discount.
that seems like a plus
I know you got paid to be there, but still. A country without a military, even in times of “peace”, is a scary thing. Especially given the direction the world is heading these days… sure you sat behind a desk but who knows what you may have been needed to do if called upon in a worst case scenario, and so for that I say thank you for your service 🙏
lol
The Facebook moms found us — who’s making the next link aggregator?
Reading this made me cringe.
👅💦🥾✨
Serious question - in places where they offer military or veteran discount how do you check? Do you ask them to show some relevant id?
My partner shows a VA card when asked.
Did your partner eat Iraqi children or Afghan children? Which one tasted his favorite?
Oh look, a coward.
If you read through my post history you would likely edit “coward” to something else more fitting…
You literally have no posts which makes you what exactly?
Comment history*
Apologies, I often forget I’m an extremely poor communicator in a community filled with intelligent neurodivergent people, and I need to contextualize better.
Which makes me an idiot. Not a coward. - to answer your question
I mean I scrolled thru your comments too but there was nothing that stood out to me. I don’t know how your comment history is supposed to show you are an idiot but I’m willing to take your word for it
But…why? I never faulted people asking for any sort of discount when I worked retail. Why blame them for simply asking if there was a way to get something cheaper? I couldn’t give a fuck if corporate was making less money while my fellow citizen saved some cash.
A lot of them just assume that everywhere bends over backwards for them. It’s incredibly obnoxious. Source: was a bartender for a decade
Source: was a bartender for a decade
Thank you for your service 🫡
Wait, people asked for a vet discount… at a bar?
I can see a restaurant, but a bar!?
Oh heavens yes, some people have no shame
Certain! I’ll be honest. We’d start putting way less shame on not knowing and encouraging asking.
Maybe I’m weird, but I guess I don’t care about military discounts. I probably just don’t have much experience with veterans. But like we give senior citizens discounts some places, because it’s expected they don’t have much money. And there’s lots of old folks who need it. Haven’t military folks traditionally had a hard time reintegrating? Like isn’t that the plot of “the forever war”? If it helps the ones who need it then good. Helping people in need is a good thing. I’m probably missing something so let me know what it is.
Why would they get a discount for choosing a job that involves them attacking other countries?
There are two ways to look at it, as I understand:
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Many (certainly not all) vets have a chip on their shoulder and expect white glove treatment. Kind of like a less whiny Karen.
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Many are of the belief that we should not reward people for aiding the government in its atrocities.
I think the meme is an exaggeration of those positions.
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The idea that I should care about a corporate losing money is laughable to me. I’ll give anyone a discount when allowed by the company without hesitation.
Oh, I’m all in for spending company money. But I’d rather not incentivize murderers.
When I worked in a commissioned sales job (read: professional capitalist thief) a coworker told me how he loved to have hot chicks as customers and he would always give them a discount.
I was like man “these girls get everything for free and discounts everywhere they go. Ipso facto they have more money to spend. Stop giving them discounts. Charge them more “
The weird thing ; they respected him for it.
Not sure where I’m going with this.
I don’t see how this is helpful. I guess you’re trying to remove incentives for joining the military? But really you’re just punishing veterans with PTSD. Keep in mind the military, at least in America, recruits what are effectively kids and then makes it a crime to disobey orders or quit. I’m not saying soldiers aren’t responsible for their actions, but also that kinda feels like punishing the working class for the crimes of the ruling class.
None of this entitles them to a discount.
But really you’re just punishing veterans with PTSD
Failing to give special treatment to someone is not punishing them. Especially when we’re talking about special treatment for an entire category of people, most of whom don’t have PTSD (estimates range from 6-27% of those deployed to a war zone, and not all veterans served in a war zone), many of whom are financially well off.
Maybe the VA and the federal government should do more for vets. Maybe the military itself should take care of the troops a bit better. But asking private businesses to prop up veterans at their own expense seems like a misguided approach.
I think you could make the same argument for other things. Why do you tip servers in America? Aren’t you just propping up a system that screws them over? Why are you forgiving student loans? Aren’t you just propping up a system that put them into debt in the first place?
I’m also mostly speaking from my first hand experience with a vet with PTSD. But it’s very possible that experience isn’t representative of your average vet. But I’m trying to approach the situation with empathy for those fucked over by the government.
I think you could make the same argument for other things. Why do you tip servers in America? Aren’t you just propping up a system that screws them over? Why are you forgiving student loans? Aren’t you just propping up a system that put them into debt in the first place?
Yes! Yes! YES!
Obviously the answer is to change the system.
100% I agree the system needs to change. But what I asking is do you immediately remove the badaids on the current system? Or do you leave those bandaids in place until the current system is changed?
Edit: genuinely I don’t see how downvoting me without providing an alternative solution is helpful. If you think you understand how we fix the underlying system, I want to know the answer. All I’m asking is how do we fix the system without hurting working class people in the process (e.g. denying restaurant wait staff the tips they rely on to pay rent).
Why are you forgiving student loans?
That’s the federal government’s administration of a federal government program, so no, that’s not the same at all.
Why do you tip servers in America?
That’s the basic deal. If a restaurant implements a no tipping policy, they’re allowed to do that. I don’t see how that’s the same or different from a restaurant implementing a “discount for veterans” or “no discounts for veterans” policy. It sounds like we’re in favor of a system where the restaurant chooses what they want to be about, whether it’s a tip-based system or not, or a discounts for vets place or not.
So in a sense, it sounds like you agree with me that we should let the restaurants choose. Neither choice is a “punishment” of anyone.
I agree that the underlying system needs to be changed. But what I’m saying is you have a system that is not ideal, and you have bandaids on that system. For example, it’s very not ideal that restaurant servers depends on tips for a living. However, if you stop tipping without requiring restaurants to pay servers a living wage, aren’t you screwing over the server, not the restaurant? Or do you leave those bandaids in place while you try and fundamentally change the underlying system?
I’m asking. I don’t know the history of how systems like this have been changed in the past. But the examples I gave, in my mind, are all systems in US that are broken and have bandaid solutions. It’s not ideal that we offer better services to vets with PTSD, it’s not ideal that restaurant wait staff requires tips to pay rent, and it’s not ideal that student loans are required to pay for an education.
Ah, the good ol’ crab bucket. Fuck X group because they got some scraps.
More like fuck X group because they are paid murderers that invade other countries and makes every life they interact with worse.
The military is majority support roles like mechanic, cook, medic, signaler, padre, admin, logistics. There’s combat roles like infantry, artillery, combat engineer and armored and then the rest are people supporting them. Even in the combat roles it’s still pretty rare to be “murdering”. Americans are a bit different but a lot of militaries have rules of engagement. It’s not indiscriminate killing. It’s defending your fellow soldier, it’s protecting your base. They’re just people trying to do a job like any other.
Ah yeah the “I didn’t serve in the SS but the Wehrmacht” defense
Give it a rest. You’re closer to a Nazi then they are.
hows that lol
pronouns
You’re extremist that are driving politics to the fringes based on in/out group think. You’re highly exploitable and manipulated by people in power while believing you’re fighting for values that somehow superior to everyone and everything else. If you weren’t all so ineffective you’d be dangerous.
being anti-mass murder is violent extremism, TIL
You’re extremist that are driving politics to the fringes based on in/out group think.
Can you elaborate on this, what in/out group think? Those that enable war crimes and those that dont?
You’re highly exploitable and manipulated by people in power
Which people in power recommend reading Marx, Lenin, Fanon, Feinberg or any of those people??
Hey man, I’m not a Nazi, I only supply the gas
You’re on .ml
You’re all closer to Nazis than they are.
Oh cool, can I ask for a military discount now or do you need proof you’ve murdered children to get it?
Are you always this big of a loser or is this a special occasion
Most of these roles are means to help actual infantry and pilots to kill people.
The only roles that might be seen as something different are medic and cook. But even then - they are there so that the soldiers could be there on the battlefield later on.
No they’re not. The military’s role is not to kill. The majority of soldiers careers are spent assisting during disasters and supporting and maintaining equipment. The amount that kill are a very big minority. Movies and TV play it up.
The military play a bigger role in stabilizing and having a presence and ability to deploy in very dangerous and inhospitable areas where they can assist other nations in stabilizing areas then they do in going some places and indiscriminately killing people. If people try to attack them, they’ll defend. Offensive operations are few and far between.
The military everyday though is some where cutting down trees, training locals, securing supply lines in areas you’d never hear about. Even in war zones, the military medics provided a huge effort to provide medical services to locals. It sucks they have to be in places like Iraq or Afghanistan but that’s not the soldiers decision. Be mad at the politicians and your fellow citizens. But the soldier has a professional role. They’re not monsters. They’re no different than the general population. You’ll hear horror stories. But the vast majority are not and they honestly don’t deserve half the bullshit a lot of you give them.
Assisting during disasters
Emergency responders do this with much less overhead - like, well, weapons. They also receive a much more extensive training for this specific kind of thing.
Supporting and maintaining equipment
Military equipment, i.e. literal murder machines.
Stabilizing areas
UN Peacekeepers do this. National armies serve “national interests”, as defined by the government backing them. They are not always interested in deescalation of conflicts, and US Army in particular stirred so many conflicts and made them so much worse because it served US government. Same idea for the rest.
It’s not the soldiers decision
It’s their decision to join the army and voluntarily give up their right to refuse. If you know you can be sent to raze territories and people, why do you join in the first place? There are better places to do good aspects of what army occasionally does.
The primary role of military is to project power by either destroying or threatening to destroy anything a given government doesn’t like. Everything else comes secondary, and if not for that, we would have dedicated personnel only meant to do the good things instead. Don’t buy weapons and helicopters, train people to respond to emergencies and assist local civilians in hostile areas. UN does this. But hey, how do you instate banana republics then?
Yea not reading all that. I know it’s just your opinion. Facts are the military isn’t a murder machine. They serve the country in multiple areas. Many areas that don’t get credit. They also do a lot of harm. But the vast majority of soldiers are amazing people who do more good in their lifetime than I bet you probably do. Much of a soldier’s career is helping other people. You have a very simplistic understanding of what a military is.
Not reading all that
The most blatant evasion.
Short version personally for you: all good things military does are better done by other specially trained people. And they don’t need deadly weapons for this. Military doesn’t make sense outside killing context.
P.S. My dad served in the army before he disappeared, so I’m pretty sure I know a bit.
It’s not about someone getting a discount. It’s about businesses incentivizing American military that is prone of causing misery around the globe. It is immoral and insane.
You’re just a hater because you didn’t think to mow down a village so you could get $1 off your burger
This seems unnecessarily petty
