Vegan burgers and substitutions are for reducing meat consumption, not enabling vegans. It is much more useful to enable the broad majority to be less harmful, rather than helping a small minority.
As a vegetarian I do want it to taste like meat. That’s how you get more people to try veggie meals.
Source: me with my family.
My immediate family now eats less meat due to liking the stuff I have, and more veggie stuff in general.
Some even prefer the ‘meat’ burgers -Beyond, Aldi plant based etc- over their old beef burgers.
They wouldn’t have even thought of trying them and be converted if they weren’t any “creepy and gross” alternatives.
As someone who currently eats meat but trying to reduce consumption for environmental reasons, I 100% want a vegan burger that tastes like the real deal
Yeah, definitely improved a ton in the previous decade or so. They’re not quite “there” if you want a burger for like a nice, thick, greasy medium patty in the middle. Like if you want to focus on the meat at all, then yeah, they’re not there.
But… if you just want like a fastfood type of burger with more toppings than patty, like a Whopper or something, then I’d say they pretty much are there.
I don’t remember if it’s exactly the beyond meat that burger king uses, but they have a nice vegan patty. One time they had Whoppers on offer, 3€ a piece, vegan and beef. Max 5 per person. I ordered 3 vegan and 2 beef I think. We ate them with my brother, and couldn’t tell which was which. Turns out we probably had only them vegan burgers, but eh, didn’t seem to matter that much.
So for replacing one of those thin, well done mcd/burger king generic patties? I think they’re there. For replacing a patty made out of fresh meat and done to a proper medium? Yeah, they’re not there.
As a vegan I actually don’t want it to taste exactly like meat — that’s just creepy and gross.
Vegan burgers and substitutions are for reducing meat consumption, not enabling vegans. It is much more useful to enable the broad majority to be less harmful, rather than helping a small minority.
As a vegetarian I do want it to taste like meat. That’s how you get more people to try veggie meals.
Source: me with my family.
My immediate family now eats less meat due to liking the stuff I have, and more veggie stuff in general.
Some even prefer the ‘meat’ burgers -Beyond, Aldi plant based etc- over their old beef burgers.
They wouldn’t have even thought of trying them and be converted if they weren’t any “creepy and gross” alternatives.
As someone who currently eats meat but trying to reduce consumption for environmental reasons, I 100% want a vegan burger that tastes like the real deal
Do you try veggie burgers every now and then to see where it’s at, at least?
Because some of them really are good. Or decent at least. Some are less than delicious, but eh.
Definitely they’re improving all the time.
I do actually, the beyond burger era has been pretty good for upping the game but they’re not quite there yet IMO
I’m completely with you that they’re improving though, I think the smash burger style is gonna get there soon
Yeah, definitely improved a ton in the previous decade or so. They’re not quite “there” if you want a burger for like a nice, thick, greasy medium patty in the middle. Like if you want to focus on the meat at all, then yeah, they’re not there.
But… if you just want like a fastfood type of burger with more toppings than patty, like a Whopper or something, then I’d say they pretty much are there.
I don’t remember if it’s exactly the beyond meat that burger king uses, but they have a nice vegan patty. One time they had Whoppers on offer, 3€ a piece, vegan and beef. Max 5 per person. I ordered 3 vegan and 2 beef I think. We ate them with my brother, and couldn’t tell which was which. Turns out we probably had only them vegan burgers, but eh, didn’t seem to matter that much.
So for replacing one of those thin, well done mcd/burger king generic patties? I think they’re there. For replacing a patty made out of fresh meat and done to a proper medium? Yeah, they’re not there.
The best vegan/vegetarian food I’ve had was the stuff that got away from finding substitutes for meat and just did its own thing.
I like both worlds: “traditional” vegan food as well as the processed meat substitutes.
We are talking burger here, not your genitals.
No, animal-burgers are definitely disturbing if you can see past your own bias.
One has severe and immediate ecological implications. Like ‘next few hours’ immediate.
Same. Plant-forward veggie burgers are great. Seitan is a revelation.