Unpopular opinion. But my experience has been that the people who have road rage the worst, are incredibly hostile, aggressive, reckless, and dangerous drivers.
they are always riding other drivers ass. Cutting them off. Refusing to let other drivers in. Whipping around fast any time anyone in front of them isn’t going 10 miles over the speed limit.
Just the worst drivers.
They cause accidents too.
I know two such guys. They both have a long history of car accidents. Whereas I, a non hostile friendly driver, have none. And I’m 40.
It’s because I don’t drive like an jackass.
These are the same kind of men who insist women can’t drive. Yet my record compared to theirs says otherwise.
If I see someone trying to merge. I make room for them.
I don’t drive right up behind people. I don’t honk if they are going a little below the speed limit. I mean there are speed cams all over cities.
It’s normal for people to be a little conservative with speed to not get those $150 tickets.
Sometimes people are new to the area. Or trying to follow a gps.
I doubt anyone is driving slow just to fuck with me. A stranger in another car. You know?
I also don’t assume people are intentionally trying to fuck up my day. No one drives perfect 24/7. We all miss our turn. Occasionally forget to check before merging. People make mistakes. Getting angry is not productive or helpful.
I don’t get mad at people for messing up one time. You know? But if they are driving aggressively and putting other people at risk I sometimes do use some passive aggressive methods to block them in so they can’t swerve like a maniac around other cars and cause an accident.
It’s pretty rare that I do that but I have. This comes from my opinions on anti-social behavior in society needing to be discouraged. You may or may not agree with my stance on this. ("Anti social refers to disruptive hostile social behaviors, not how much of an introvert someone is).
One time I did it, it was apparently an unmarked cop car. They kept using the shoulder to weave in and out of slow traffic. Very aggressively. Forcing themselves between cars. Not waiting for gaps.
So I slightly pulled to the right to block them from using the shoulder to keep doing it. Then they flashed their lights at me. I’m certain they were not on a cop mission. Just an asshole entitled cop. Otherwise he would have just drove on the shoulder with his lights on.
Being a cop doesn’t mean you get to drive where you put other people at risk because you think you shouldn’t have to sit in traffic. Everyone has places they need to get to. That’s why we are all in cars driving.
They never said anything indicating anything about what lane they’re driving in. How do you know they’re on roads that even have a left lane to camp in?
They didn’t mention camping the lane outside of sometimes fucking with aggressive d-bags. If you read otherwise, maybe you’re the aggressive d-bag that deserves to be fucked with?
Everyone encounters a road rager every here and there and goes “man that guy is a dick.” People that rant about road ragers in general are the cause of road rage. If everyone has a problem with one person, that person is the problem. If you have a problem with everyone, you are the problem.
Sometimes areas just have bad drivers. One place i lived people would start driving in middle turn lane for 1/2 a mile to pass someone, people drifting out of their lanes etc. Once I moved that happened 1/10th as often, even though I didn’t drive any differently. Sometimes everyone else really is the problem.
I doubt anyone is driving slow just to fuck with me. A stranger in another car. You know?
I’ll add to this that a lot of people are walking around with this fiction in their head about ‘good drivers’. In reality, driving is a skill and not everyone can be good at it. We really don’t want people like that driving fast, and maybe not as fast as everyone else at that.
So, I see someone driving slow and I honestly think “maybe this is the best they can do knowing that it would be dangerous to go faster, beyond what their reflexes can handle.”
I agree in general. People have different brain structures. Some people literally can’t even visualize things in 3D, so they are effectively driving with an entire layer of information removed.
That said, it’s not about wanting everyone to drive fast. It’s about wanting everyone to have some level of self-awareness and drive accordingly to minimize how much everyone else on the road has to accommodate them. Think of someone pulling a trailer on narrow roads where passing opportunities are rare. Around me at least, it’s common to see these drivers pull off the road periodically to relieve everyone else built up behind them.
Thank you! I honestly get pretty anxious, especially in my dingy little car, going the speed limit.
Completely agree around the “good drivers” fallacy. We’re all human - emotional, tired, thinking about other things.
And the risk and consequences of a crash increase disproportionately with speed while the time gain has diminishing returns. So I’m happy getting there 5 mins later after 2 h of driving safely and calmly
I’ve been taking the bus to work some days and the emotional difference between riding bumpers for 30 minutes and being on the bus listening to tunes and reading for 50 is noticeable. I miss the bus on days when I take the car in.
Not the person you responded to, and I generally don’t camp in the left lane, but when I am in the left lane and actively passing someone, more often than not there’s some dude behind me that can’t even wait for me to get 20’-30’ in front of the vehicle in the right lane before I switch and they speed up and wedge themselves through the gap on and angle between us to zoom off.
Yeah, and that’s ridiculous behavior, I’ll agree. My rule to myself is if someone is actively passing, I give them space to do so. Now, if you pass and then fail to move over, I might try to encourage you to do so. I don’t like to pass people on the right, I think driving is easier when we expect to pass people to our right and be passed by people on our left.
10 mph over is the normal driving speed on US highways.
If you’re going to be a slow poke, I suggest you start practicing reverse passing. Are you on a road with one lane in each direction, and someone comes up behind you wanting to pass? Instead of being an asshole and trying to stop them, be a positive influence and help them. It’s far easier to reverse pass than to pass, as you’re slowing down rather than speeding up.
Reverse passing is just like it sounds - passing in reverse. You enter the left lane, slow down rapidly, and then move back over. You force the driver behind you to pass you whether they want to or not.
There, now you’re the driver in the following position. You just eliminated a traffic hazard, and you can go at your own pace without inconveniencing anyone. Take your slow Sunday drives if you want, but don’t be an asshole. It’s extremely anti-social behavior.
One scenario is a speeding car is coming up behind the car trailing. You can’t see it and it can’t see you. You merge into the lane just as the speeder enters it to pass and you get rear-ended.
Reverse passing is just like it sounds - passing in reverse. You enter the left lane, slow down rapidly, and then move back over. You force the driver behind you to pass you whether they want to or not.
No no no. God sweet Jesus no. NEVER EVER DO THAT.
If you want someone to pass you, here is what you do. Wait until there is a clear stretch of road for them to pass on, and move your car as far to the right as possible so they can see around you easily, and then let them pass if they want to. If you really want to encourage them, slow down just a tad, maybe 3-5 mph, and if that doesn’t work, throw on your hazards too.
I’m a slow driver, at or slightly below the speed limit. My tips for not pissing people off:
Use your cruise control/maintain speed. People can get used to whatever speed you’re at, but if you keep changing your speed, they’ll keep accelerating into it and slamming on the brakes.
When the road opens up nice and straight with clear visibility, for fucks sake, DO NOT SPEED UP (see: 1), even though it feels natural to do so. There’s a line of cars behind you that have been waiting for the dotted yellow line to pass you–and where you feel like it’s safe to go faster is usually where they put those dotted lines.
Thank you. I love driving behind people like you. I’ll keep a safe distance and wait it out for a passing lane. But my God i loose my shit when I wait it out and they do everything to try to stop me from passing, accelarate/ hog the passing lane try to block view. Etc.
What’s wrong with reverse passing exactly? It’s safer than regular passing as it requires less distance to slow down than speed up a vehicle, at least in my experience.
It’s a weird maneuver. People get into the passing lane to pass. If you get into the passing lane and hit the brakes, you are just asking to confuse the people behind you.
It sends confusing information to the people behind you. If I see the car ahead of me hop out of lane while clearly not in a passing situation, it’s usually because there is something hazardous in the road, and I need to dodge it as well, I’d be moving out of lane pretty much the exact moment you started slamming your brakes.
You have less visibility behind you than you do in front, making the maneuver much more dangerous. You might be popping out of lane to do your “Reverse pass” at the exact moment the person behind you, in or a person behind them decides to pass. You could also get stuck in a situation where you go for the “reverse pass” and realize that there is actually more cars behind you than you expected, and now you’re stuck going slow in the wrong lane with no way to get back over.
Cars can (almost) always brake faster than they can accelerate. If you need to get back into your original place because it is unsafe to complete the pass, it’s a lot easier to slow down to get back to it, than it is to accelerate to get back to it.
Don’t “reverse pass”. In fact, you really should pull your post or edit it to advise people not to do it. It’s illegal, it’s dangerous and it will get people hurt or killed. This is not a joke or a shit-post. I’m dead serious.
Unpopular opinion. But my experience has been that the people who have road rage the worst, are incredibly hostile, aggressive, reckless, and dangerous drivers.
they are always riding other drivers ass. Cutting them off. Refusing to let other drivers in. Whipping around fast any time anyone in front of them isn’t going 10 miles over the speed limit. Just the worst drivers.
They cause accidents too. I know two such guys. They both have a long history of car accidents. Whereas I, a non hostile friendly driver, have none. And I’m 40.
It’s because I don’t drive like an jackass. These are the same kind of men who insist women can’t drive. Yet my record compared to theirs says otherwise.
If I see someone trying to merge. I make room for them.
I don’t drive right up behind people. I don’t honk if they are going a little below the speed limit. I mean there are speed cams all over cities.
It’s normal for people to be a little conservative with speed to not get those $150 tickets.
Sometimes people are new to the area. Or trying to follow a gps.
I doubt anyone is driving slow just to fuck with me. A stranger in another car. You know?
I also don’t assume people are intentionally trying to fuck up my day. No one drives perfect 24/7. We all miss our turn. Occasionally forget to check before merging. People make mistakes. Getting angry is not productive or helpful.
I don’t get mad at people for messing up one time. You know? But if they are driving aggressively and putting other people at risk I sometimes do use some passive aggressive methods to block them in so they can’t swerve like a maniac around other cars and cause an accident.
It’s pretty rare that I do that but I have. This comes from my opinions on anti-social behavior in society needing to be discouraged. You may or may not agree with my stance on this. ("Anti social refers to disruptive hostile social behaviors, not how much of an introvert someone is).
One time I did it, it was apparently an unmarked cop car. They kept using the shoulder to weave in and out of slow traffic. Very aggressively. Forcing themselves between cars. Not waiting for gaps.
So I slightly pulled to the right to block them from using the shoulder to keep doing it. Then they flashed their lights at me. I’m certain they were not on a cop mission. Just an asshole entitled cop. Otherwise he would have just drove on the shoulder with his lights on.
Being a cop doesn’t mean you get to drive where you put other people at risk because you think you shouldn’t have to sit in traffic. Everyone has places they need to get to. That’s why we are all in cars driving.
Insurance actuaries agree: men are worse drivers.
That’s sweet and all…
Get over to the right bro. Yes people drive dangerously. Yes there are improvements everyone can make.
GET OVER.
If you are in the left lane and you are not passing, you are a full-to-the-top absolute shitwagon. These are the rules.
They never said anything indicating anything about what lane they’re driving in. How do you know they’re on roads that even have a left lane to camp in?
They didn’t mention camping the lane outside of sometimes fucking with aggressive d-bags. If you read otherwise, maybe you’re the aggressive d-bag that deserves to be fucked with?
Everyone encounters a road rager every here and there and goes “man that guy is a dick.” People that rant about road ragers in general are the cause of road rage. If everyone has a problem with one person, that person is the problem. If you have a problem with everyone, you are the problem.
Sometimes areas just have bad drivers. One place i lived people would start driving in middle turn lane for 1/2 a mile to pass someone, people drifting out of their lanes etc. Once I moved that happened 1/10th as often, even though I didn’t drive any differently. Sometimes everyone else really is the problem.
I’ll add to this that a lot of people are walking around with this fiction in their head about ‘good drivers’. In reality, driving is a skill and not everyone can be good at it. We really don’t want people like that driving fast, and maybe not as fast as everyone else at that.
So, I see someone driving slow and I honestly think “maybe this is the best they can do knowing that it would be dangerous to go faster, beyond what their reflexes can handle.”
I agree in general. People have different brain structures. Some people literally can’t even visualize things in 3D, so they are effectively driving with an entire layer of information removed.
That said, it’s not about wanting everyone to drive fast. It’s about wanting everyone to have some level of self-awareness and drive accordingly to minimize how much everyone else on the road has to accommodate them. Think of someone pulling a trailer on narrow roads where passing opportunities are rare. Around me at least, it’s common to see these drivers pull off the road periodically to relieve everyone else built up behind them.
Thank you! I honestly get pretty anxious, especially in my dingy little car, going the speed limit.
Completely agree around the “good drivers” fallacy. We’re all human - emotional, tired, thinking about other things.
And the risk and consequences of a crash increase disproportionately with speed while the time gain has diminishing returns. So I’m happy getting there 5 mins later after 2 h of driving safely and calmly
I’ve been taking the bus to work some days and the emotional difference between riding bumpers for 30 minutes and being on the bus listening to tunes and reading for 50 is noticeable. I miss the bus on days when I take the car in.
That’s a lot of words to justify camping in the left lane.
They didn’t say they did. I didn’t read it as justifying other people driving slow in the lane, but rather criticizing the aggressive drivers
I know, I was just being a mook. It was too many words, and I’m an avid reader, but we’re on a shitpost (I think we are), gotta be succinct.
Wait yeah this is a shitpost. Nvm, carry on, and go fuck yourself 😇
Not the person you responded to, and I generally don’t camp in the left lane, but when I am in the left lane and actively passing someone, more often than not there’s some dude behind me that can’t even wait for me to get 20’-30’ in front of the vehicle in the right lane before I switch and they speed up and wedge themselves through the gap on and angle between us to zoom off.
Yeah, and that’s ridiculous behavior, I’ll agree. My rule to myself is if someone is actively passing, I give them space to do so. Now, if you pass and then fail to move over, I might try to encourage you to do so. I don’t like to pass people on the right, I think driving is easier when we expect to pass people to our right and be passed by people on our left.
When did I say I camp in the left lane?
You assume this because I said I’m not a hostile driver ?
That says a lot about you.
10 mph over is the normal driving speed on US highways.
If you’re going to be a slow poke, I suggest you start practicing reverse passing. Are you on a road with one lane in each direction, and someone comes up behind you wanting to pass? Instead of being an asshole and trying to stop them, be a positive influence and help them. It’s far easier to reverse pass than to pass, as you’re slowing down rather than speeding up.
Reverse passing is just like it sounds - passing in reverse. You enter the left lane, slow down rapidly, and then move back over. You force the driver behind you to pass you whether they want to or not.
There, now you’re the driver in the following position. You just eliminated a traffic hazard, and you can go at your own pace without inconveniencing anyone. Take your slow Sunday drives if you want, but don’t be an asshole. It’s extremely anti-social behavior.
… by creating a traffic hazard.
Frankly I don’t see how reverse passing is any more dangerous than forward passing. If anything it’s less dangerous as it requires less road distance.
Is this one of those things that just feels dangerous, so therefore it must be?
One scenario is a speeding car is coming up behind the car trailing. You can’t see it and it can’t see you. You merge into the lane just as the speeder enters it to pass and you get rear-ended.
No no no. God sweet Jesus no. NEVER EVER DO THAT.
If you want someone to pass you, here is what you do. Wait until there is a clear stretch of road for them to pass on, and move your car as far to the right as possible so they can see around you easily, and then let them pass if they want to. If you really want to encourage them, slow down just a tad, maybe 3-5 mph, and if that doesn’t work, throw on your hazards too.
I’m a slow driver, at or slightly below the speed limit. My tips for not pissing people off:
Use your cruise control/maintain speed. People can get used to whatever speed you’re at, but if you keep changing your speed, they’ll keep accelerating into it and slamming on the brakes.
When the road opens up nice and straight with clear visibility, for fucks sake, DO NOT SPEED UP (see: 1), even though it feels natural to do so. There’s a line of cars behind you that have been waiting for the dotted yellow line to pass you–and where you feel like it’s safe to go faster is usually where they put those dotted lines.
Thank you. I love driving behind people like you. I’ll keep a safe distance and wait it out for a passing lane. But my God i loose my shit when I wait it out and they do everything to try to stop me from passing, accelarate/ hog the passing lane try to block view. Etc.
What’s wrong with reverse passing exactly? It’s safer than regular passing as it requires less distance to slow down than speed up a vehicle, at least in my experience.
Pretty much every thing about it.
It’s a weird maneuver. People get into the passing lane to pass. If you get into the passing lane and hit the brakes, you are just asking to confuse the people behind you.
It sends confusing information to the people behind you. If I see the car ahead of me hop out of lane while clearly not in a passing situation, it’s usually because there is something hazardous in the road, and I need to dodge it as well, I’d be moving out of lane pretty much the exact moment you started slamming your brakes.
You have less visibility behind you than you do in front, making the maneuver much more dangerous. You might be popping out of lane to do your “Reverse pass” at the exact moment the person behind you, in or a person behind them decides to pass. You could also get stuck in a situation where you go for the “reverse pass” and realize that there is actually more cars behind you than you expected, and now you’re stuck going slow in the wrong lane with no way to get back over.
Cars can (almost) always brake faster than they can accelerate. If you need to get back into your original place because it is unsafe to complete the pass, it’s a lot easier to slow down to get back to it, than it is to accelerate to get back to it.
Don’t “reverse pass”. In fact, you really should pull your post or edit it to advise people not to do it. It’s illegal, it’s dangerous and it will get people hurt or killed. This is not a joke or a shit-post. I’m dead serious.