Gather round and attend my layoff time tale of woe.
I worked for this company for four years. They fell on hard times and, in place of layoffs, required employees to temporarily give up a portion of their salary on the condition it would be repaid within 2 years with interest, plus increased bonuses proportional with how much you sacrificed. I voluntarily gave up 20% as the company had never had a layoff in its history (no layoffs was part of their alleged culture) and all the old timers gushed about their massive bonuses after downturns like these.
I was given my quarterly review in October and I get a perfect score. I work three weeks, then am badly hurt on the job. It requires fairly major surgery, so I’m out for almost two months.
I literally limp back, probably a little too early. The first day is fine and I’m getting back up to speed. Boss shows appreciation to my dedication as I reasonably could have taken more time to recuperate. I tell her I need to discuss accommodations as I’m still healing. She agrees and sets an appointment for the next morning. Great job HamSandwich, everyone loves you.
I arrive to the accommodation meeting to find the head of HR and my boss. I figure HR is there to help with accomodations. Nope, I’m being terminated. For performance. Huh. I ask about my stellar review. My boss tells me there were issues. I ask about the issues. She is unable to give me any examples. I ask how I was supposed to know I had performance issues when I had a perfect review three work weeks ago and no one can tell me what I’ve been doing wrong. HR boss bitch pipes in with “Ham, at your seniority level you should just know.” Fuck you, boss bitch. Fuck you.
As I’m packing up my things, I realize they cut me one day before my yearly stock shares were to be awarded. Security walks me out and tells me I’m one of many senior level employees being terminated. People are being fired for showing up five minutes late. Upper level admins are walking out in protest. It appears this was the strategy: bank on the company’s good reputation to encourage increased voluntary salary cuts, then dump as many high earners as possible if still in a downturn. My boss is a spineless twerp and went along with it. She lies and tells the rest of the department I was terminated for sleeping on the job. Fuck you, boss. Fuck you.
The company had its first round of layoffs a few months later. Those employees also lost the money they gave up. The company’s reputation is irreparably harmed and I’m currently suing them for lost wages.
If a corporation asks you to take one for the team, don’t. “The team” will never take one for you.
Name and shame! That sounds like a horrid experience.
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it’s not about shame, it’s about people going “Oh so that company sucks, let’s not work there”, resulting in the shitty company not having any fucking workers
I remember years and years ago when I still a regular employee I got into work one morning to find I no longer had access to any git repos. nothing. Well already knew the reason right then and there. I usually got in before everyone else so by the time people were coming into the office I was packing my stuff up to leave. People were all “where are you going?” I said “well I either got fired or laid off so I’m leaving, I’m not sitting through a bullshit meeting telling me why I was laid off”
wiped the laptop, wiped my externals, walked out, went and sat in a coffee shop to revise my resume. I got a call like an hour later asking me where I was and why I didn’t attend the meeting I was apparently schedule for. I replied with “you laid me off” few minutes later they email me back saying they’ll just send my ROE and last paycheque in the mail and then proceeded to explain why I and a few other devs were laid off. I didn’t bother reading the rest of it.
Then I decided to become a freelancer and never looked back. best decision I made.
What REALLY annoyed me about the whole thing was I thought I was good friends with the IT guy that set up access to everything, he was the one that revoked my access the night before and didn’t tell me. I was literally having a beer with him that night and he never said a word. out of everything that hurt the most. never spoke to him again.
Great story on how you handled it. And totally agree with you on the IT guy. What a douche that he just couldn’t give you a heads up.
the insulting thing out of it is I paid for his beers! he KNEW I was getting laid off and didn’t say “hey…maybe I should be paying for these” nope, gladly accepted my money. He tried to contact me after the fact and I just blocked him.
Some people dont have the guts for it.
I was going to say that if the workplace is harsh and the IT guy would get fired for telling you, in his place I might not say anything and then immediately apologize. And apparently get blocked with no discussion.
But damn, letting you pay?
And it’s kind of irrelevant because you acted as if you already knew anyway, lol.
Being sarcastic got me fired. Twice.
Where the fuck do y’all work that your HR “rep” looks like Anne Hathaway? Every company I worked for had a lady that looked like she retired after thirty years of proctoring detentions at a public highschool.
I literally worked for a company where one of the two people in HR paid for her studies with modelling, the kind where you mostly keep your clothes on. Also I’m pretty sure my boss only hired her because he wanted to fuck her.
“Why do you keep winding up speaking to HR?” 👀
Everyone in HR at my current company is hot. It almost seems like a prerequisite.
It probably reduces the chance of male workers telling them to fuck off. Or the higher ups hire those so they can sexually harass them
Or take them to a Coldplay concert.
Did you get lucky with any of them? 😏
Christ… And people rail against claims that there’s sexism in [any_industry]
OBJECTION!
Men can be hot too.
Furthermore, I don’t know if @GladiusB@lemmy.world is a man or a woman neither do I know their sexual orientation.
So my comment was pervy, but not sexist. I deny the allegation!
You can be sexist to both women and men.
Nice. Equality at last. 😅
“oh I’m sorry, I had to leave early. Something’s come up. You’ll receive FMLA paperwork soon; I’m afraid I have to invoke mandatory legally protected family medical leave. See you in at least 90 days”
Oh. I heard this bluff from Pat Geisinger himself, in person.
I was employed by VMware many moons ago when Pat took the helm. He decided to start by cutting an entire department from my location, sight unseen.
We then changed all the furniture because they had two floors of the building and wanted to cut back since they just lost half a floor of people.
We go home, work from home for a while, then return. Then Pat comes by for a site visit.
He stood there with the gall to say that the team that was cut was a different business unit, and that was a business decision regarding that business unit (it was the front line team, which was then relocated to “low cost centers”)… Blah blah blah… This is a different department, a different business unit, blah blah, what happened to them is isolated, and doesn’t mean anything regarding your employment… Blah blah …
I didn’t buy it for a second. But I was too stressed out to do anything at the time.
The layoffs started less than six months later. I was part of the first round.
Fuck you Pat.
So sad how they just have to fucking lie to everyone.
Well, if they tell you about your impending demise you might not work as hard!
why would you
I would spend my working time looking for a new job.
MegaBux Inc. bought our small ag-biotech firm in 2018. I had developed a high throughput product screening system for natural products against a bunch of animal diseases. The program worked and we identified a bunch of candidates (I also developed the list of things to screen) for botanical/natural solutions to animal diseases. I should have guessed that I was on the chopping block when after finding out some of the things we screened actually worked, I got replaced as PI on the project by someone else much younger. A couple months into 2020 all the folks at the R&D center (including me) got laid off. They did pay severance to us- and mine took me out to October of that year due to my longevity with the firm that was purchased. A couple months after that, a bunch of the junior staff (who were well trained in my methods) got hired back. I was almost 69 at the time, so it was probably time to retire anyway. I was very lucky. This is so familiar! At least I made my stack and can live comfortably on my SS and pensions.
Sorry, too busy. Why can’t my manager fill you in on my current projects?
Haha I tried that one, because I was legitimately too swamped and management got very upset.
And then?
Oh I still got laid off, just later in the day.
I think it messed with their plans to lock me out of everything after the meeting. Must be logistically challenging lining up all those layoff meetings. 🙄
Brb, backing up my script folder and deleting anything I haven’t already shared with the team
HR lady once spit a whole ass pack of lies about my work performance, and had cut off my email access so I couldn’t prove her wrong, which would have been trivially easy. Realized before I spoke up that if the HR director is lying this bad, there’s no reason to even try to “prove” I’m right, just a really toxic company.
That smile. That damned smile.
I think this is their mask.
Do they get special training on how to lie with a straight face?
I know a couple hr people personally, and they speak in a kind of coded manner at work. Some of them will legitimately try to help you out, but of course the nature of their profession means they can never be a true ally. Not for long, anyway.
I’ve been friends with HR people at a number of jobs. They generally party hard. I’ve also always had the understanding that if they have to walk me we’d be professional about it. I’ve never been let go.
Yeah this matches my experience. HR person is always the one to have a bottle of whisky squirreled away for a good time.
I’ve been let go twice. It’s shitty, but I realise they have very little power in a situation like that.
This is why I have so far refused to be a people manager. I’m not going to be able to emotionally handle laying someone off.
take the job and ignore how they tell you to act, when the company lets someone go you just walk up to them with a basket of goodies (paid for with the company card) and shake their hand and share some complaints about higher ups
In my previous company, at about 9PM, about half the company got an invite for a 9AM meeting, and the other half for a 10AM meeting, we saw all the name in our invite of course. Let’s say the evening was hard, to guess which group was staying and which group was fired! I was in the “stay” group, this repeated every quarter and after 3 or 4 quarters it was my turn to be in the fire group, the next quarter they closed the company and fired the remaining employees.
The HR lady was like the picture.
Lmao in my case my computer just randomly restarted and asked for a security pin while I was busy working on something. I learned through our WhatsApp group that we got laid off lol.
Call with HR was when I already knew and nothing like this, I tried to get them to let me keep my $7k MacBook, no chance, literally everything was non negotiable so the call was absolutely pointless.
You should have kept the Mac, seriously. I often had no response trying to get laptops back from employees and was asking HR if we couldn’t get a form for new hires to sign regarding company equipment returns. Can’t remember the reasoning but HR told me the company is basically powerless to force the issue. In any case, the legal costs of suing you would quickly stack higher than $7K.
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The only good thing about getting laid off is 1) you can at least collect unemployment 2) It’s easier to get another job because you weren’t simply fired
Unemployment isn’t that easy to collect in a lot of states. My state’s unemployment system is essentially designed to dissuade people from collecting. Tons of red tape, rules, and conditions to wade through and if the stars are right you might start getting checks worth 2/3 the value of your original paycheck a month later.
What’s the difference between being laid off and being fired?
You can’t collect unemployment if you get fired.
It depends. I was terminated under false pretenses, so I collected unemployment without any issues.
Sending Anne Hathaway to fire me? I’ll accept that.