Modern nannies can’t even assassinate 2 kids simultaneously. Pathetic. Kids! Not some Rembo-Terminators.
Wtf is this so though? I hate this trend or having to stop working every 2 seconds to prove you are working.
Daycare is kind of intense.
You have a bunch of parents who would rather be with their kids. They’re paying close to their own mortgage/rent to have their kids watched. They’re convinced that the teens/young adults the daycare hires are not doing anything. Their kids are there with a load of other kids, pick up bad habits, get bullied and yelled at by kids in worse home situations. As soon any any scratch or scrape happens they want to know know for those prices.
The timesheets give them solace that their kid is being watched, fed, changed, and taken care of emotionally.
it’s not necessary, but it’s not hard to see why it happens
That doesn’t seem weirdly detailed to me? Kid bumped their head and they wrote down what happened.
Look at the timestamps: 1:20 1:30 1:40 2:30 ridiculous.
Could just go: oh yeah he bumped his head today when parents come pick him up instead.
It’s an app. Do you actually think they’re manually entering the time? The app is probably just rounding to the nearest 10 for display purposes. There’s also a legal obligation to fill out an incident report.
You’re caring for someone else’s child and the law says if you felt the need to do something (ice pack) then the parents deserve documentation with timeline and response. Do you have a different criteria that’s good for when a non-medical caregiver should need to tell a parent something happened to their kid?just rounding to the nearest 10 for display purposes.
I was referring to the amount of them. 3 in half an hour 😕 For no good reason.
the law says if you felt the need to do…
Luckily the law is different where I live. I’d rather have my child taken care of by a human, instead of a flowchart :)
Do you have a different criteria
When the caretaker feels like something important happened
Oh, I assumed you thought people were spending a lot of time entering timestamps. Do you think this is a particularly onerous process for them, or that the parents need to like, acknowledge each log? They just push a button to select the kid and tap another to select the event. Maybe type a description if it’s an incident report. It’s significantly easier for them than logging it any other way, and it ensures parents get the information on food, diapers and whatnot.
I am confused how you see this as care by flowchart. Daycare staff aren’t medical professionals. They aren’t qualified to make objective decisions about what’s an “important” event to notify parents of in a consistent manner. What country are you in where the parental notification laws are “I dunno, if you feel like it I guess”?
What country are you in where the parental notification laws are “I dunno, if you feel like it I guess”?
Belgium. There’s no laws whatsoever that mandate notifications. They’ll just tell you if something important happens
Well that seems quite odd. Most developed countries have standards for childcare settings, including defining minimums for activity and incident logging.
Finding regulations was difficult, but it seems that Belgium just has lower quality childcare than even the US, according to the UN. https://www.unicef.org/innocenti/reports/where-do-rich-countries-stand-childcareColor me surprised. I kind of assumed if we had standards that anyone else would have similar or better standards.
Sounds like a really good way to have half of these things forgotten throughout the day and never told to the parents 🤷♂️ logging this on the tablet takes literally 5 seconds, instead of having to spend 5 minutes with each parent at pickup
Yeah, I’d also rather talk with the person taking care of my child. So you can tell how they’re doing, as this will reflect on your kid. I prefer those 5 minutes.
You still ignored the first half.
Regardless, if they’re logging, you can talk to them about the important parts without wasting several hours of important staff time every day between all of the parents. This isn’t instead of talking to them, it’s in addition.
This is also just super useful for all of the staff. Did Timmy just have a snack? No he doesn’t need another. Did each staff member change Timmy’s diaper today? We wouldn’t have known it happened 5 times without the log, because that’s not something you talk about every time.
If it’s important they’ll remember. Talking to people, seeing how they’re doing, isn’t a waste of time in my opinion. Au contraire, it’s rather important!
If it’s important they’ll remember.
Absolutely fucking braindead take.
In their defence looking through the black bars reveals that there are multiple caretakers collectively taking care of the children, so it becomes necessary to track what care has already been given to the kids so all the adults can coordinate.
no??? If thats the case the groups are too big!! I have a child in daycare and I’d be horrified if there was such a bustle that the adults need to log every action they take because otherwise a kid might not get his diapers changed!!
Hey FYI your black bars are see through
Not my OC. OOP was told about this and left the post up anyway :)
I wonder if Miss Emely appreciated that. Hell, did anybody ask Noam before blasting his dirty laundry all over the internet?
did noam ask anyone before blasting all over and thus creating the dirty laundry?
That feels very dystopian
came here to say just this, just seeing a feed of your childs interactions at another space is fucking weird. Why goto this logging level? Isnt it just good enough of, yeah they napped well today, and they hit there head, it scared them but we got them calmed and an ice pack just in case.
I feel like this is what helicopter parenting but they have to work so this is what they want and they need to calm down, they dont even monitor the indoor air at this level and that has been shown to be a big contributor of poor mental performance then just being at day care with sun and playing with others.
Let’s not put the blame only on the parents. Anyone who has spent more than 30 seconds working for a corp would understand that taking credit for work does not mean the work got done.
Assuming the diapers aren’t tracked by barcode and there isn’t an independent inspector validating each operation, I would be MORE wary about my kid being well taken care of at a place that measures and tracks work this way. Especially since the types of management that would think this was a good idea are also the type to not understand how work actually gets done and drives to making the metrics look good at the expense of actually caring for human children.
Yeah thinking that child raising is just a calculation to be figured out is just not the right way. Yes plan the day, but outside of play,eat,nap,reading time. You shouldnt be like did you log the child having a come apart for just being over stimulated?? Or the odd fight that happened over block that neither child wanted to play with?!
Agreed on the diaper change one, but the first half is literally what you said with a timestamp. The nap one is important because if they did or didn’t nap, you can adjust what you do after
yeah but you are pulling their attention for that, logging that is time they are not dealing with children.
How long do you think it takes to log? That would take maybe 5 seconds max unless the ui is horrendous.
And over how many children? So 30 kids 5 seconds each (lets hope they just have to click a button and not add fucking notes to each one) so like 5 min an hour just logging shit they could spend with the parent when they pick them up. God forbid its a real winner of a day and every other child is just walking into walls and tripping all over the place. I am sure they need this dumb shit added to their workload.
so like 5 min an hour just logging shit they could spend with the parent when they pick them up
Talking with parents takes far, far, far longer than logging something on your phone or a tablet. How is this idea not just a significantly worse time-sink?
That’s not even getting into the fact that things get forgotten throughout the day - you’re absolutely not getting a full report while they’re panicking and dealing with 20 other parents while also keeping the kids still there safe.
30 times 5 seconds is 2.5 minutes, and that’s for a stupendously overworked person. Like “CPS call” levels of understaffing at what would be an unlicensed facility.
A more realistic number is under a minute per hour.that is if everything is going to plan and you just have to press the childs button and action, but you also have to get the device at the time to so you should at least add in 5 seconds for that. But again, children are not like this, so the care giver once per hour I am sure is having to type out some dumb thing this human just did, So I would say that 5 min to 10 min is spent on logging and tending the human that fell or freaked out.
They’re spending that time doing diaper changes. They’re not attending to the other kids regardless.
I would think that they dont stack a caregiver that hard with infants and full on running 2+ year olds. But I still would rather them just spend a few min talking to me then having to log shit.
A few minutes talking to you (and every other parent at pickup) is way, way, waaaaay more time than the 5 seconds it takes to log each thing. You say “just,” but your request is at least 10x as expensive.
its your child, you should WANT to talk to these people, they are not robots, you want to know their insights and maybe how the environment and mood of the place is.
