• emeralddawn45@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    This is why even though I love aquariums, I don’t think I could have one. Like I get that the purpose of the image is to show that they have a much larger space than most other fish kept in aquariums, and that’s a much bigger tank than most people have, but that still doesn’t seem like a lot of room to live their entire life in. It just makes me sad to think about it.

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      I’ve had aquariums on and off through the decades. My last one was a 150 L tank, very well planted, and three small schools, zebras, lneons and guppies. All of them keep to small areas in the wild, and see to be fine in that sort of surroundings. Also, schools are mesmerizing. A Japanese aquarist, Takashi Amano was famous for designing huge aquariums, with massive forests, and just a few fish.

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        you just made me want to get fish again. i love tetras but i was a kid. i knew shit about fish so i couldn’t keep them alive. by the time i was old enough to properly care for a fish we had our Oscar and those tetras would have just been Brunch. I don’t think we had a fish named Brunch.

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      We had a very well cared for Oscar. He was a smart fish. He really only liked to eat tails. He was in a hundred gallon tank with just a few other fish besides his pet feeder halfgoldfish he refused to finish eating (every time he’d refuse to eat a goldfish, it got named after a meal or a food and became part of the fish family)

      The bastard still tried to commit suicide like once a month. We were just lucky someone was usually home because I know what the cats wanted to do. I don’t know what the damn fish wanted but he’d jump out of the tank regularly.

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    We have a goldfish. Our toddler will put her toys around the outside of the aquarium. Every few days she’ll swap them out. The fish will swim down and look at each one. They both get something out of this arrangement.

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      Okay this has nothing to do with fish and everything to do with the mirror test. What does it say about you when you know you’ve acquired a doppelganger and you see a photograph and can’t tell if it’s you or the doppel in the photo because it was at the event where you met your doppel and that was 20 years ago. Like, we had the same glasses frames and everything it was weird

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      (Sorry if you already know all this, I’m just excited about this and wanna share with people reading through comments)

      Its still unclear how much that reflects on fish broadly, and the researcher has actually expressed a belief that many animals could be much smarter than we have assumed because our experimental design was inadequate

      In their research they chose the color red for the mark on the fish (the mirror test and some other tests used for assessing animal intelligence requires a mark be put on the animal)- the researcher chose red because the parasites they have exposure to are red (clearner wrasse are fish that work in complex social groups to clean parasites off larger fish. I’m not sure if they might be impacted by red parasites themseleves or if its the color they look for when cleaning other fish, or both).

      When later tested with green they acted as if the mark wasn’t there, so the researcher feels theres a chance that tests failed to adequately take into account the way animals experience the world and may not have designed tests in line with what information would be ecologically significant to them. Had he not thought carefully about it and picked another color the test would have shown exactly what people expected of fish- that theyre not that smart

      This was a super cool video covering the progression of research https://youtu.be/s_aNH4hXz8I. For a long time his results were dismissed so he just kept writing papers and collecting more evidence

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        10 hours ago

        Please never apologize for sharing like this, it is what makes us human and it is always a delight to share in the joy of sharing and learning.

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        20 hours ago

        You are delightful, and I really appreciate you, and this comment of yours. I didn’t know about this, but you’ve piqued my interest enough that I’m going to go read more about it now. It’s super cool!

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        No? I think it still looks fine. I think Pixar did pretty well in choosing what types of things they could get away with animating at the time with their early movies.

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          still looks decent, yeah, but modern animations just look way different. there’s something a little bit off about that maybe, though I can’t tell from a still image. that image might just be uniquely bad, i remember the movie being way more beautiful overall.

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            The contrast and how vivid it is look off from what I remember. Hardware for rendering has improved a lot since it came out. Maybe the animation masked the “simplicity” for lack of a better term.

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        23 hours ago

        the unterwater parts arent even the worst, wait till you see the human renders again. they scared me for life even back then.

        spoiler

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      I used to have gold barbs that would watch TV, I assume the motion of it was more interesting than the same old plants and driftwood in their tank