American problems require American solutions
I wish the problem was only in 'murica, I have to deal with that constantly down in Bruhzil
I can’t even tell anymore.
I want a car that has a rear windscreen that can turn into a mirror at the push of a button. Really useful for dealing with men with tiny dicks who drive giant trucks
Just use your rear view mirror. Point it directly backwards and there should still be enough light to annoy the hell out of them. I do it regularly on my morning commute and it is very effective.
Their car is taller than mine, can’t angle that far up…
Side mirrors friend, just nudge to the side so they can see them and blast away
I want a car that has a rear windscreen
Me too, I’ve given this a lot of thought. I think you’d need a small computer, a camera and essentially a gimbal to move a mirror. It wouldn’t be hard to infer where the drivers eyes are based on how high up the headlights originated, you could even just do a figure eight around where you think the eyes would be.
The real problem is, if they hit you, and the cops look at what you have there, you’ll likely be found at fault.
… but this has got to be a failure of state (legislature & enforcement) on both counts, right?
Taxpayers should be more demanding of some pubic servants (like politicians, even judges in some cases/countries).
Maybe bring that French democracy device on the next electrons.Just ban high-positioned lights (or high vehicles in general), have them mandatory tested every year for alignment, fine folk with incorrect use of high-
beansbeams or fog lights. And, you know, something about guns.The problem with American tax payers is that they have been taught that selfishness is the highest virtue, especially when it comes to their cars. You see it with the high beams, and you see it with the ginormous toddler-killing trucks.
It’s not taxpayers who have a say but campaign donators.
Taxpayers have a say bcs they are the larger of the two classes & they can just eat them.
But taxpayers just stay quiet even when issues with overwhelming public support don’t even get a debate.
pubic servants
Need me one of those amiright?
One of the many problems with these massive pickup trucks is that the headlights are so high up that the normal mode is effectively high-beams for anyone who isn’t also in a massive pickup truck
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I often think about putting an unreasonably bright backwards facing lightbar on my sedan for just such occasions. Guess what bud, now we both can’t see.
The problem with how bright they are nowadays is that the downwards angle required to not blind people in regular driving conditions like small slopes is ridiculous and severely restricts how far you can see
they’re just too bright now
Lol, that all sounds correct unfortunately.
The cars with headlights that I find glaring are usually/more often unadjusted low-beams.
Or fog lamps bcs “iT mAKeS It lOoK sPorTIeR”.Interestingly I can code my DRLs (front and back - diffident markets have different rules regarding what DRLs are & when are needed) to different levels & at default they are at 20 or 30% (the 100% being when used with regular headlights on, probably).
I tried it bcs I was curious & set it to 100%, but was def distracting & I reset them immediately (I didn’t even do both sides, just the right one to have a comparison).
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Lol, what a journey!
It’s not the fact that you can’t see the road that tells you your lights are off, it’s the dashboard.
But that is def how people’s brainholes work actually.Also, there are cars that don’t have automatic headlights and have an (I assume on of those fully) LCD dashboards?
Around my parts the former predates the latter (in high end cars, like the S-class not by a whole bunch, but still, and there are those 70s cars with monochromatic LCDs, but still). Or is it a regional thing (eg how USA didn’t allow for anything automatic in headlights until very recently & expensive European cars in USA movies always had some cheap projector headlights)?deleted by creator
It’s totally valid to have fog lights for use in fog because they actually do make a massive difference. I am also a fan of how they look they just fill in the bumper nicely. But using them when it isn’t foggy is pretty stupid. I personally have fog lights but barely ever use them other than when I’m on a back road late at night and just want all the visibility possible.
Ofc lights have a legitimate purpose.
They are absolutely paramount to read safety (fuck cars tho for that safety even being in question - even tho I like cars, I want trains too or at least cars on trains).I can’t imagine having a car with incandescent lights anymore (like with lots of other tech - like tires).
I use fog lights (first back, then front) if I literally can’t see taillights in front of me at like a bit over 50(-ish)m & reduced speed.
I love high beams too, it gives me so much better side-of-the-road awareness (animals), but I also have one finger on the (adaptive) button all the time in case the camera fails & starts closing the gap on a car (no, I don’t have an IR camera :/).
It’s also stupid how like 20+ (25+?) year old cars have adaptive high beams (where they don’t shine in other cars), automatic leveling of headlights (to prevent what OP posted), and even IR cameras (with ppl & animal spotting & even highlighting), etc - and the auto industry just kept it all as an expensive add-on for so many years (things changed slowly, but it’s still not standard).
At least the lawmakers mandated auto-emergency-braking on new cars (again after 20 years).
Oh, another example, the French had adaptive (non- high beam) headlights to see around the corner in 1967, yet this is still not mandated.
Modern are ofc better - and perhaps fill the purpose you mention you use fog lights for.
I have the factory fog lamps (they’re pretty low) on whenever the low beams are on. I have abysmal night vision and live in a rural area.
They are a separate switch for me but I drive a car from the 80s so idk maybe I’m the weird one
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At least for SUVs some manufacturers finally realized that you don’t need to put the beams at the top of the front, you can have the DRLs there and have the beams at the bottom.
https://www.hyundai-forums.com/attachments/1564158285330-png.440196/
That’s the only redeeming quality of the Cybertruck. Its headlights are low in the bumper area.
Also it makes it easy to identify wannabe fascists.
This is a really good idea, and I’m glad some manufacturers are doing it. It’d be great if Ford could follow suit because the LED high beams in my car blind me every time a retro-reflector is nearby.
Maybe it’s also bcs it’s a global model & some markets do have prescribed a max & a min height of a headlight from the ground (I heard even UK had or has that).
It’s also why trucks in EU have regular headlamps closer to the ground compared to those in USA.
The lighting specs to sell in USA vs EU are different. Same as the reflex lens side markers. Automakers produce two sets (or more) of front and rear lights for the same vehicle model. SAE and ECE if I recall the acronyms correctly
Oh, global models have a lot more than two, several per country per model.
Not sure if we are talking the same thing. I meant the lenses specifications, not the trucks aesthetics and lighting options available per market. I.e. legally you can’t run NA lighting on European streets, and vice versa because of the reflectivity and angles of light allowed.
It’s the brightness primarily, but yes made worse by the height
Higher is supposes to be fine if you re aim them for the standard cut off height/distance, but some of the factory ones (I think Nissan Rogue) are just absolutely blinding on normal factory height
Sometimes I wonder if people know how lights work, and this goes both ways apparently. I have a couple Western Stars and a Peterbilt, and the low beams are aimed to have the same throw as a passenger vehicle that isn’t driven by an idiot that can’t aim lights. And those trucks sit much, much higher than a pickup.
Unfortunately those are low beams because the fog lights are on. You probably don’t want to see the high beams
I always find it funny when somebody with blinding headlights is driving towards me and I flash them, only for there to be some barely discernible change in their lights that I soon realize was them flashing me back
not that I could fucking tell a difference
New trucks only have high beams and higher beams.
It’s not just trucks it’s pretty much all new cars
Fog lights and high beams were independent on all cars I’ve driven, is that not the case in the US?
Nope; factory-installed fog lights turn off with activation of the high beams in the US. Note that we can buy self-installed aftermarket fog lights and drill holes into the dash for the switch, but even then (in the jurisdictions I’ve lived in) you were supposed to turn them off when using high beams. But nobody does.
It’s because seemingly the entire point of fog lights is that you get less reflection back from the fog or falling snow. If you put on the high beams, they lose their point and serve only to further blind oncoming traffic.
I’ve found that sometimes it’s even beneficial to turn off your LOW beams and keep the fogs on.
Oh, I completely agree. I was just stating how it is here in case that’s not the same in other countries.
Our Canadian cars are different it seems
Our foglights are independent of the high or low beam setting
I always wanted a programmable sign that could display messages to asshats behind me
I’ve wanted a polite version with thank you and stuff on it but apparently they don’t want any lighting that isn’t described in the drivers manual, essentially.
So new idea: circular laminated paper driven by a motor. Or that individual one flap per letter design.
My dad had a college friend who did this back in the 70s, using all electromechanical components. Relays and solenoids and so forth. Hey, they were engineering students, what do you expect? From what he described it didn’t use a drum to display the messages, but rather had an array of six or seven of them that popped up from below, like bread from a toaster. It fit on the platform between the back seat and rear window of his car.
As the story was recounted to me, he did get hassled by the cops for this at one point due to flipping up one of the more expletive laden signboards at an unmarked patrol car. Ultimately they couldn’t find anything to nail him for over it, though.
Meanwhile, my brother in law keeps one of these in the door pocket in his truck:
my brother in law keeps one of these in the door pocket in his truck
Is it printed with the back of the hand on the other side? Because if that’s the front, it looks like he’s giving himself the finger.
His is a bit higher quality than that one, and I have no idea where he got it. It’s made of closed cell foam and is indeed printed on both sides.
array of six or seven of them that popped up from below, like bread from a toaster
That is awesome :D
(Referring to the polite signs here of course)
Interesting how presumably simply the tech at the time led them to a solution that may still be legal today, vs. the cheap AliExpress stuff that the DOT wouldn’t like
Best would be a small LED display that could display a preset phrase, like “thank you” or “you’re blinding me”. The hand is not specific enough, and giving the middle finger will just enrage other drivers.
LED = illegal even inside the vehicle if I recall correctly, California
What about those Uber and Lyft LED signs drivers put on the dash? Are those banned also?
Ooh great question!
In my part of California they can’t even pull you over for a missing license plate because the cops were being so racist they basically outlawed traffic stops entirely.
Not sure what the status is here, but I live in the EU
I looked into it a while back. You can buy them on AliExpress. Search for “car rear digital sign” or something like that.
I’ve repositioned my side mirror to shine back at them. Usually gets them to back up a little bit.
Sick high-beams, bro. I’m going to slow down to 20 MPH so I can enjoy them longer.
I often think about if I could have any super power that isn’t OP, I’d pick the ability to snap my fingers and it’ll break those lights.
That’s how I do.
If you blind me with super high beams, I need to slow down to be safe.
Yeah, driving slow is my solution for just a out anything that someone is doing stupidly on the road. Am I doing it to be petty? Sure. But is it also making the situation safer? Absolutely. So if I can justify my pettiness, you bet I’m going to do it.
and unfortunately that’s how road rage starts, speaking from experience.
hmm… What would the legality be of 3D printing fake machine guns that pop out of the brake lights like a James Bond vehicle; as a scare tactic? 🤔
(The guns don’t need to be fake for this meme to still work correctly.)
Depending on the country. Could be listed as threats or terroristic threats, even if the guns are fake.
Now a up mirror. That might be interesting
The mirror will still get you fucked for creating hazards I bet, but if it only works when the hazard already exists, morally youre in the clear.
How about not a mirror, but a metal sheet that has a mirror finish like those big tanker trucks that blind everyone when the sun is low enough?
And likely illegal, but that will also make things very interesting for you for a bit
Self defense is predicated on the “reasonable person” standard. Anyone finding themselves (or another) imperiled by what they reasonably believe to be a machine gun is justified in doing anything they reasonably believe necessary to end the threat.
A good focusing flashlight directed into the side mirror has been pretty helpful for getting these idiots to move on
I used to be really good at reflecting with the rear-view. As long as they were far enough away that I could see their windshield, I could usually land a direct hit. I’ve had a few instances where I’ll see the sombitch slam on their brakes.
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Is the mirror all broken?
